Sunday, July 10, 2005

Someone Else's Words

I don't like republishing someone else's work or words in their entirety, but this was emailed to me recently. I felt it summed up so many of the topics we have discussed here that I couldn't miss putting this out for discussion. It is quite long but it is worth the read. I will have an original, personal post up soon. I am still picking up pieces and making sense of things. Until then, please consider this:


To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it. Our country is now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII).

The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there are very few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who realize what losing really means.

First, let's examine a few basics:

1. When did the threat to us start? Many will say September 11th, 2001. The answer as far as the United States is concerned is 1979, 22 years prior to September 2001, with the following attacks on us: Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979; Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983; Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983; Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988; First New York World Trade Center attack 1993; Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996; Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998; Dar es Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998; Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000; New York World Trade Center 2001; Pentagon 2001. (Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581 terrorist attacks worldwide).

2. Why were we attacked? Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks happened during the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or Democrats as there were no provocations by any of the presidents or their immediate predecessors, Presidents Ford or Carter.

3. Who were the attackers? In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out by Muslims.

4. What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%

5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful? Hopefully, but that is really not material. There is no doubt that the predominately Christian population of Germany was peaceful, but under the dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was also Christian), that made no difference. You either went along with the administration or you were eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million Christians killed by the Nazis for political reasons (including 7,000 Polish priests). see http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm ).

Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis, as the 6 million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we seldom heard of anything other than the Jewish atrocities. Although Hitler kept the world focused on the Jews, he had no hesitancy about killing anyone who got in his way of exterminating the Jews or of taking over the world - German, Christian or any others. Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the US, but kill all in the way - their own people or the Spanish, French or anyone else. The point here is that just like the peaceful Germans were of no protection to anyone from the Nazis, no matter how many peaceful Muslims there may be, they are no protection for us from the terrorist Muslim leaders and what they are fanatically bent on doing - by their own pronouncements - killing all of us "infidels". I don't blame the peaceful Muslims. What would you do if the choice was shut up or die?

6. So who are we at war with? There is no way we can honestly respond that it is anyone other than the Muslim terrorists. Trying to be politically correct and avoid verbalizing this conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to win if you don't clearly recognize and articulate who you are fighting.

So with that background, now to the two major questions:
1. Can we lose this war?
2. What does losing really mean?

If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal questions.

We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous as it may sound, the major reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do not fathom the answer to the second question - What does losing mean?

It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war means hanging our heads, bringing the troops home and going on about our business, like post Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one can get. What losing really means is:

We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks will not subside, but rather will steadily increase. Remember, they want us dead, not just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they would not have produced an increasing series of attacks against us, over the past 18 years. The plan was clearly, for terrorist to attack us, until we were neutered and submissive to them.

We would of course have no future support from other nations, for fear of reprisals and for the reason that they would see, we are impotent and cannot help them.

They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It will be increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain hostage. It doesn't matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain to withdraw its troops from Iraq. Spain did it because the Muslim terrorists bombed their train and told them to withdraw the troops. Anything else they want Spain to do, will be done. Spain is finished.

The next will probably be France. Our one hope on France is that they might see the light and realize that if we don't win, they are finished too, in that they can't resist the Muslim terrorists without us. However, it may already be too late for France. France is already 20% Muslim and fading fast!

If we lose the war, our production, income, exports and way of life will all vanish as we know it. After losing, who would trade or deal with us, if they were threatened by the Muslims. If we can't stop the Muslims, how could anyone else? The Muslims fully know what is riding on this war, and therefore are completely committed to winning, at any cost. We better know it too and be likewise committed to winning at
any cost.

Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing? Simple. Until we recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and really put 100% of our thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going to take that 100% effort to win.

So, how can we lose the war? Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by " imploding". That is, defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize the enemy and their purpose, and really digging in and lending full support to the war effort. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. If we continue to be divided, there is no way that we can win!

Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don't comprehend the life and death seriousness of this situation.

- President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of Transportation. Although all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men between 17 and 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow profiling. Does that sound like we are taking this thing seriously? This is war! For the duration, we are going to have to give up some of the civil rights, we have become accustomed to. We had better be prepared to lose some of our civil rights temporarily or we will most certainly lose all of them permanently.

And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of civil rights during WWII, and immediately restored them after the victory and in fact added many more since then. Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him? No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our Political Correctness, and all of our civil rights during this conflict and have a clean, lawful, honorable war. None of those words apply to war. Get them out of your head.

- Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the Administration that it almost seems they would literally like to see us lose. I hasten to add that this isn't because they are disloyal. It is because they just don't recognize what losing means. Nevertheless, that conduct gives the impression to the enemy that we are divided and weakening, it concerns our friends, and it does great damage to our cause.

- Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies best what I am saying. We have recently had an issue, involving the treatment of a few Muslim prisoners of war, by a small group of our military police. These are the type prisoners who just a few months ago were throwing their own people off buildings, cutting off their hands, cutting out their tongues and otherwise murdering their own people just for disagreeing with Saddam Hussein. And just a few years ago these same type prisoners chemically killed 400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the same type enemy fighters, who recently were burning Americans, and dragging their charred corpses through the streets of Iraq. And still more recently, the same type enemy that was and is providing videos to all news sources internationally, of the beheading of American prisoners they held. Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several days have thought and talked about nothing else but the "humiliating" of some Muslim prisoners - not burning them, not dragging their charred corpses through the streets, not beheading them, but "humiliating" them. Can this be for real? The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the Secretary of Defense. If this doesn't show the complete lack of comprehension and understanding of the seriousness of the enemy we are fighting, the life and death struggle we are in and the disastrous results of losing this war, nothing can. To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this prisoner issue makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned - totally oblivious to what is going on in the real world. Neither we, nor any other country, can survive this internal strife. Again I say, this does not mean that some of our politicians or media people are disloyal. It simply means that they are absolutely oblivious to the magnitude, of the situation we are in and into which the Muslim terrorists have been pushing us, for many years. Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to kill all infidels! That translates into all non-Muslims - not just in the United States, but throughout the world. We are the last bastion of defense.

We have been criticized for many years as being 'arrogant'. That charge is valid in at least one respect. We are arrogant in that we believe that we are so good, powerful and smart, that we can win the hearts and minds of all those who attack us, and that with both hands tied behind our back, we can defeat anything bad in the world! We can't! If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it will not survive, and no other free country in the World will survive if we are defeated. And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allow freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of the Press, equal rights for anyone - let alone everyone, equal status or any status for women, or that have been productive in one single way that contributes to the good of the world.

This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this war or we will be equated in the history books to the self-inflicted fall of the Roman Empire. If, that is, the Muslim leaders will allow history books to be written or read.

If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the Muslims take over France in the next 5 years or less. They will continue to increase the Muslim population, of France and continue to encroach little by little, on the established French traditions. The French will be fighting among themselves, over what should or should not be done, which will continue to weaken them and keep them from any united
resolve. Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?

Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some external military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away, politically correct piece by politically correct piece. And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown, worldwide, that they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even to themselves, once they are in power. They have universally shown that when they have taken over, they then start brutally killing each other over who will be the few who control the masses. Will we ever stop hearing from the politically correct, about the "peaceful Muslims"?

I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. I hope now after the election, the factions in our country will begin to focus on the critical situation we are in, and will unite to save our country. It is your future we are talking about! Do whatever you can to preserve it.



There you have it. I am interested in your comments.

21 Comments:

Blogger Carnealian said...

I'm assuming you left out the author on purpose?

This article makes me want to run and stick my head in the sand. It paints a very grim picture. I think the political correctness crap has to stop. I see it daily where I work and ironically, the inmates are running the prison.

The basis and definition of the word Islam is to submit. Muslims believe they were given the divine right to take from others and to force others to submit to Islam or die.

While I think France has some issues brewing, I think England has to wake up too, and not just in light of the recent bombings. I don't know the exact numbers, but I'd be willing to bet there's a high number of Muslims in England, particularly London.

What does the average Joe do? How do we prevent this ultimate disaster?

12:01  
Blogger Carnealian said...

I was talking to a friend of mine about his today. She likened this situation to The Grinch. Eventhough he came and took all the Whoo's "stuff" their love and spirit prevailed. Let's hope we can all be Whoo's.

16:07  
Blogger Ric said...

Sometimes the facts point us in a direction we would rather not go. Is there any debate of the direction that needs taken?

16:59  
Blogger drofub said...

how do we know when we've won?

22:22  
Blogger mattandriver said...

Wow! Powerful stuff! Truth is, I agree about 95%. Call the word misplaced as you want, but freedom is freedom. I hold it very valuable and try not to take it for granted as much of the 'average joe' has.

But, if things would really go as bad as I have read.... I think of a different outcome. Watch the movie RED DAWN ( I wrote the link's html on the fly so please excuse if it doesn't work)
I have any guns in my home. As so most of my friends. I am an avid hunter. Do you really think that if worse comes to worse, that we would not all band together and fight? Life for the 'average' would change, but for myself...

Download and the lyrics to the song PET by A Perfect Circle. Read them over and over then apply them to this. I think you will get more of an understanding of my position.

22:49  
Blogger mattandriver said...

Read

22:56  
Blogger Dorman said...

I wasn't given the author's name. I think the true problem is exactly what we fear and what I have been trying to demonstrate for a long time. It is a mind-virus situation that can't necessarily be stopped by border patrols. Tolerance equates to vulnerability, political correctness is writing your own eulogy. We need to stop defending the muslims, our enemies, or any religious/political group that has evidence of its actions go against the preached propaganda it promotes.

I am watching TV right now in the office, we report on 'this is a prime terrorist target so this is what we are doing to protect ourselves'. For Freaks sake, let's just broadcast it to the enemies with blueprints! We've well started defeating ourselves mentally. But yet mexicans can walk across the borders and many think it more wise to put fountains in the desert so they don't die of thirst rather than closing the border tight so that a brown-skinned, black-haired, heat-loving al-qaida member can't slip on a sombrero and walk across with the rest of his vatos. Oh, wait, that is the evil profiling attitude.

There was never a culture that survived on compassion, openness, and loving the enemy into submission. They may have existed but after the conquering force got done mopping up the blood of the dead, they used their history books to start the pyres.

I am vulnerable too, over here, maybe more maybe less. But I do take comfort in knowing that I have a machine gun to shoot back.

00:22  
Blogger SnotSucker said...

relevant


Slightly dated but informational.

04:38  
Blogger Ric said...

What is the difference between being tolerant and being open minded as it relates to those who violently oppose/attack us? What should we do?

17:02  
Blogger InterstellarLass said...

This post really irritates me. And, I agree with Carnelian...I want to go stick my head in the sand and just scream, then come back out and slap a few people silly (none of you). Instead, I will use my witty repartee and pure genius...

Let's examine the 'basics' as they are laid out.

1. Out of all the major terrorist attacks listed here, not one says 'Iraq'. Granted, terrorist activities are terrible. But, Saddam was isolated. There were no terrorists in Iraq before we arrived. What we've done is stoked the hornet's nest.

2. No, no, and no. We were attacked because of our swaggering attitude and our oil greed. Until OPEC formed in the 60's, we had access to all the oil we needed, and we were profiting from it. Then, the Arabs decided to stop getting screwed by us, and formed OPEC. How dare they! I mean, not letting us steal from them anymore. The more oil we needed, the more we imposed on the Arabs, and the pissier they got with us. Oh yes, it really started before that even. Ever heard of British Imperialism? Oh, and that good Christian evangelizing? We just can't stand to see the 'savages' living in the stone age. It's our job to educate, modernize and save them from hell. It just took till 1979 to boil over.

3. Ever heard of Christian jihad? Well, excluding the Crusades...that whole saving the savages thing again. Buddhist jihad? No. Yes, these terrorists are fanatical. But as I've stated before, I don't believe it's the religion, it's the people. There are plenty of fanatical, right-wing extremist Christians. Granted, they typically end up killing themselves, and not others, but any relgion can be grossly distorted by it's followers.

4. Um. So? Only 1/5 of Muslims worldwide are Arab. It's primarily the Muslims of the Arab states that are involved in terrorism. Notice the locations of the attacks? OPEC countries. Excepting the African countries, and I simply believe this is because a) they are Muslim countries and b) we were easy to hit there. And Bali...reason b. Why aren't the other Indonesian and Asian Muslims terrorizing us as well? They don't have any oil, so we don't bother them.

5. What is the point of this statement? This is a weak argument in my opinion. Isn't the Christian religion 'peaceful'? Aren't all religions supposedly 'peaceful'? Yet every single country in this world has violence. Man committing acts against fellow man. Yes, the terrorists use the religion card as their shield, but they are not fighting for religion. Unless they're mad zealots that have a warped perspective of the religion, but that's ANY religion, not limited to Islam.

6. We are at war with Arabs. We want their oil. They want their country. They want the right to have their own religion, their own way of life, their own FREEDOM to make their own decisions. It's not our job to say that the only way they can achieve this is through democracy. It just makes it easier for us.

Now to the two major questions:
1) Yes, we can lose this war.
2) Losing means we are all screwed to the nth degree.

In fact, as drofub asked, how do we know when we've won? I don't think we ever will. This will become a way of life until we are all dead. And I don't mean just our generation. I mean until there are no more living, breathing humans on this earth. Either the Divine will come down and smite us all for our stupidity, or we'll beat Him/Her to the punch, and we'll nuke ourselves into oblivion.

I am offended that this anonymous writer dares to suggest that we simply do not fathom the fact that we could ever lose. I believe that we are all smarter than that. Well, I hope anyway. Our arrogance never ceases to amaze me. So yes, while there are a percentage of the population walking around with their heads stuck up their behinds thinking that those bad Muslims, I mean Arabs, are just going to put down their bomb-vests one day and give up, well, I say let's use them for target practice. But, just from my own personal experience, the people I talk to on a daily basis, the threat of losing is very real and very scary. But I don't think that we will realize that we've 'lost'. Maybe we already have and just no one knows it yet.

I believe that America is on a downslide. We're like Old Mother Hubbard...we've got too many 'children' (fledgeling democracies) that we're trying to create and babysit. We're going crazy. Calgon, take me away! We can't just whip them all soundly and put them to bed. Nope, they're sassin' us back! We're not going to take your crap anymore Momma USA.

And this whole notion of 'picking off other non-Muslim nations'? 20% of France is Muslim and fading fast? Oh my gosh. OK, most about 75% of that Muslim population are not Arab Muslims. They are North-African Muslims. Again, not the particular brand of Muslims we are fighting. And, this is like saying 'Wow, 20% of my kids' school is Black/Hispanic/Asian...this neighborhood is fading fast'. Racism at it's finest.

Our 'way of life' has only evolved in the last 100 years. The Industrial Revolution changed our 'way of life'. The 'Computer Age' changed our way of life. The only thing that will vanish as we know it? Our cheap energy source. Committed to winning at any cost? Isn't that like cutting off your nose to spite your face?

Reality check...we are imploding. We've already started. We have confused 'the enemy' and we have confused 'the purpose'. This war is not about FREEDOM. It is about OIL. I don't care what anyone says. If the Arab nations were just willing to give us all their oil and 'play nice like we want them to' we wouldn't be having this problem. We would love Islam. We would think that Muslims were our best friends.

I don't care to even respond to this writer's 'examples' of how we don't comprehend the situation. Political Correctness has nothing to do with this war. Political Correctness is more likely to more deeply impact me in my personal, everyday life than it is while we worry about hurting some Muslim's feelings. It's stupid people who do and say stupid things that get us into hot water. The Newsweek item on the Koran? Yeah. Who didn't forsee that this article was a BAD idea? Were they 1000000% sure that their facts were correct? Was there any shadow of a doubt? I certainly hope so.

And, we've been down the road of how they treat our dead and how we treat their prisoners. Just because they stoop so low, we have to respond in kind? Dumb. Just dumb.

By equating ourselves to the 'last bastion of defense', we are putting ourselves up on that holier-than-thou pedestal. HUBRIS. Bites you in the ass all the time. We are arrogant. It's going to get us in a lot of trouble.

This person makes it sound like we are the green, green Christian grass being strangled by the weeds of Islam. By making it a Holy War, we are going down a path where no rational arguement can be made. My Holy Drum is bigger and better than your Holy Drum. When you start talking matters of FAITH, RATIONALE gets thrown out the window. It becomes passion. You can't argue against passion.

Carnelian -- yes, in fact, the neighborhood near the Edgware Road station where one of the bombings took place has a large Muslim population. Goes to show they are in it for the act, not the victims.

Ric -- we took a wrong turn near Albuquerque. I don't think there were any 'facts' that took us in this 'direction'. Smoke and mirrors.

Mattandriver -- I read those lyrics. To me, they say, 'Here, don't worry about all the bad stuff happening outside. Stay safe, stay ignorant, let me protect you because you can't protect yourself.' Sure, apply that in a position of a child and a parent, and you've got a decent argument. Apply that to the position of the mass population and our government, and you've got a situation where they're telling us what's best for us, and don't worry our little heads about it. When in fact, I think our government is more like the wolf wearing the sheepskin. I prefer to know exactly where I'm being led, thank you very much, and I want to be able to defend myself if need be. I've given my position on guns before. I'm glad Dorman has one, but I don't think having one tucked in my purse is going to help me.

I don't think we should be tolerant of those who attack, kill, bomb, maim, whatever -- innocent people. But don't make the broad generalization that it's Muslims. It's not. As I said before, yes, that's the shield, but that's not the reason. Stand a rapist up in a room with five innocent people...can you tell which is the rapist? Not unless you're the victim you can't.

There, Dorman, you have my comments. I welcome any and all comers, with their comments, retorts, and/or replies.

22:47  
Blogger Dorman said...

a) Pet is a song originally by Maynard to his son about drugs. It has only since been adapted to be anti-war in a remix "Count the Body Like Sheep To the Rhythm of the War Drum"

b) I.L., I like your analysis but the assumption that the Arab strain of the islam virus is who to blame isn't completely true. In Sadi, few attacks take place. Sure, it may be the headquarters - who knows but they have actually been supportive. Also, many attacks have been by converts, like the Army sergeant that threw the grenade into the CP tent. Many european muslims are not necessarily Arab though they are middle eastern. I refer back to sweden's problem.

Ric, in a previous post, you referred to a theocracy as the ideal for government. I vehemently disagree. The muslims demand a theocracy. I think man should rule man, each man rule himself ultimately.

01:19  
Blogger Dorman said...

Oh, and when it comes to genocide, no one does it better than a good ol'fashioned Abrahamic religion.

01:20  
Blogger Dorman said...

oh, tolerance vs open-mindedness.....

tolerance = blind ignorance of the bad side of anything for fear of being labelled a bigot or closed-minded. Blame yourself for being limited in scope and assume that whatever you are studying has merit and is correct.

Open-mindedness = being able to assess new ideas without undue prejudice while still retaining your ability to judge/discern correct from incorrect, positive vs negative, etc. Allowing the idea to stand on its own merit without fear of making a decision on its place or its value. Always being willing to examine new ideas without fear of disagreeing with others.

01:25  
Blogger drofub said...

dorman---don't you think you've been discussing this topic for too long now? :) you know what I mean...

you have a perspective of Iraq that most (or all, I don't know) of us in this blog don't have...how do YOU think we'll know when we've won? or can we win?

10:03  
Blogger Crystal said...

i dont have time to write out all of the grievances i have with this post. I agree with IL, somewhat. But I dont believe that if I disagree with what this author has written, that it is because I haven't "recognized" the real threat.

In fact, he has created a new "mind virus"

I am sick of listening to people try to tie together facts and historical events that have no business being tied together. Yes, some are well connected. But others are so blatantly wrong and defenseless.

We will never defeat the problem, whatever it may be, with guns. So find a better solution. And since we cannot, because we think might is right, we will implode. Until we do, don't continue blaming the other side. I love America, but we are not without our own fault. Get a grip people. but of course, in a peaceful manner.

14:18  
Blogger Ric said...

With regards to the conflict/war whatever, I am interested in what people think would be a solution to the problem. I am not interested in point and counter point. I am curious to see if anyone has ideas about solutions. I do not have the answer. My best guess would be to remove the troops as soon as possible, 1 year maybe, and employ special forces to continue to hunt those who attack us.

20:30  
Blogger Dorman said...

We can win this War on Terrorism, and more specifically the war in Iraq, as much as we can win the War on Drugs. You can't win a war against the human mind or human spirit, however right or wrong it is. The author sums up my point of view very well. I have held to it for a long time and still, to this day, do not understand why others hold on to such a potentially dangerous and vulnerable point of view that every person they meet on a city street in Hometown, USA is exactly the same. They are definitely not the same as the folks that live here and frankly you are ignorant if you think they are. The idea that all men are created equal is also idealistic bung. Maybe we are created equal in the physical sense but in reality not everyone is even created as equal as others (birth defects, mental limitations, health abnormalities), plus because we are *created* equal does NOT mean that we stay equal.

So, no I don't think we can win this war in a traditional sense because there is no traditional enemy. Resistance is a mindset, not a uniformed soldier. One pissed off Iraqi can constitute an insurgency at any time. One of your examples of a 'good and peaceful muslim' does not justify the goodness of the whole of islam. Likewise one examnple of a bad muslim doesn't damn the whole of islam....or does it? How about 30-60%? How about the idea that the mindset of islam itself is the corrupting factor. Like rotten apples...do you blame the apples or do you blame the rot? I blame the rot.

My solution....pull out systematically and let sovereignty take hold. Let the country stand on its own, rise or fall under its own devices and choices. Democracy and freedom mean allowing each to make a decision and vote for it. Maybe they want a different lifestyle than we have. Fine. Let them or we stand as hypocrites imposing an idea of 'freedom' on the oppressed.

11:09  
Blogger Dorman said...

Plus our leaders refuse to define a 'win' or a timeframe for operations. Like operating in a vacuum. You can't define progress without a measuring stick.

11:21  
Blogger Jami said...

you guys look like kids telling each other ghost stories.

yes, there are sh--head terrorists. yes, it's awesome that you guys are trying to stop them.

but there's no need to blow the problem out of proportion. no one saw the WTC collapse and thought, "no big woop." we all know terrorists are sh--s and need to be punished. but when you generalize the problem and make it even bigger than it is, you become one of them, full of hate for people who don't deserve to be hated.

blowing up iraq wasn't really the right way to go, as far as stopping terrorists is concerned. i hope we can fix their broken country, get you guys home, and figure out how to stop terrorism. we're not doing it right now.

10:56  
Blogger Crystal said...

well, you jami, have obviously not seen the south park version of the aristocrats...no big whoop. i really am j/k. if you don't like vulgarity, i recommend continuing not seeing it, i would rather not have. but it definitely identifies the no big whoop people out there

13:53  
Blogger The Fool said...

I received this same anonymous e-mail. I can't say I agree with everything it says but I also feel that the enemy is not only Radical Islam, it is religious fundamentalism in general. It's very ironic that we're fighting Islamic fundamentalism abroad while stoking the fires of Christian fundamentalism at home. Comparing statements made by Iranian mullahs and politically connected preachers here in the States will get you nowhere. They might as well have been written by the same person. I think we need to examine very carefully what direction we're going in this country so that we don't make any more major foriegn policy screw-ups like Iraq.

On a personal note dorman, I'd like to thank you for your service. No matter what side of the political fence one is on, all we want is to get all you guys home safe. Take care.

10:28  

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